A progressive counter-ribbon to “support our troops” [pics]

We’ve all seen the annoying “support our troops” ribbons like these ones below. Usually they can be found on the backs of cars of people who supposedly “support out troops” while the rest of us leftist heathens presumably have to be physically restrained from spitting and throwing stones at passing soldiers.

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Or, conversely, there are also variants of these ribbons taken to their tacky and exploitative natural conclusion such as this wonderfully cheesy ribbon which, I kid you not, is actually a real product that some capitalist somewhere came up with:

Seriously, how many clichés can you fit into one image?

Scott Neigh had some interesting points talking about how we on the left can fight back against the right’s jingoistic, vacuous phrase “support our troops”.

While Scott Neigh’s points are definitely worth reading (as are all of his writings, for that matter), he concludes that there aren’t really any good, coherent counter-attacks against the “support our troops” trope. Specifically, Scott points out the problems with the current counter-attack “Support our troops: Bring them home”.

So, with that in mind, I took it upon myself to come up with a unique, concise and coherent counter-attack to the “support our troops” ribbon.

At first, I thought about simply translating the French anti-war ribbons like this one:

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(translation: “No to war”)

But then I came up with this idea which is even simpler and hits even closer to the heart of what we on the left, I think, are actually wanting to say.

Most importantly, there’s no way that this ribbon could be more clear. It is, quite simply:

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If you’re interested in posting the “stop killing people” ribbon on your blog or website, just copy the following html code and paste it wherever you’d like the image to appear (it won’t link back to this blog or this post).

27 Responses to “A progressive counter-ribbon to “support our troops” [pics]”


  1. 1 FurGaia 14 October, 2007 at 10:36 am

    FWIW, I prefer the blue ribbon. The “Stop Killing People” is, I think, a bit dodgy. While it certainly applies to the likes of Bush & Cheney, it does not apply to ALL the troops who have been dispatched on the killing fields, many of whom against their conscience. As well, more and more, and Iraq is a case in point, the killing is being done by mercenaries, and not regular troops.

  2. 2 RPJ 14 October, 2007 at 4:43 pm

    Maybe the phrase “Stop Sacrificing People” would work. That way it could represent all the lives being sacrificed for Bush & Cheney’s corporate buddies. Both the Iraqi people and the troops sent there to die.

  3. 3 paulitics 14 October, 2007 at 7:01 pm

    FurGaia,

    You raise an important point, but my intention with the imperative “stop killing” is not wholly directed towards soldiers who are actually doing the killing, but to the policy makers who set the initial circumstances in motion which result in the killing.

  4. 4 Rachel 16 October, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    Good, but people will most definitely take it the wrong way.

  5. 5 Lina 16 October, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    Rachel is right. What if pro-lifers get a hold of it?

    But seriously, I’m going to make one. :)

  6. 6 FurGaia 17 October, 2007 at 8:43 am

    I see your point. Actually, I borrowed that design for a post I have about the Empire, modern weaponry, aerial bombing, etc. all those hellish stuff that kill and maim people. It’s a column by John Steppling in which he wrote: The US runs economically on its defense budget and military spending. It needs soldiers to toss into pointless occupations, into various wells of chaos and killing. It needs targets for its huge stockpile of ordnance. I thought the black ribbon was quite appropriate.

  7. 7 Jamie 26 October, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    “Stop Killing People” is a great statement! Could you add the word “Abortionists” to your ribbon then we could use it at our Pro-Life rally! Actually, I guess I could do that myself, thanks for the help!

  8. 8 paulitics 26 October, 2007 at 10:06 pm

    Jamie, if you’re considering plagiarizing or editing my work, I will refer you to the link at the bottom of the sidebar that states that all work on this blog is protected by limited copyrights.

    You can read further on this here:

    http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/ca/

    However you can feel free to carry the ribbon as-is, provided it is for non-commercial purposes.

    Seeing as how you agree with the sentiment, I presume that you agree that we should end the war immediately? In that case, I would be more than happy to have you place the magnet on your vehicle.

  9. 9 eimaJ 2 November, 2007 at 7:20 pm

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  10. 10 Julie 11 November, 2007 at 10:23 pm

    You’re an idiot. Why don’t you try actually ASKING the troops what THEIR idea of support is instead of taking it upon yourself to demean them?
    You need to keep in mind that the military is VOLUNTARY – no soldier is forced to serve this country – what’s more – they KNOW exactly what they are signing up for….

    Enough time wasted on such junk

  11. 11 paulitics 12 November, 2007 at 1:12 am

    Julie, thanks for enlightening me. I should just point out that up until a few months ago, I was actually on the Canadian Forces’ payroll as a Civilian Instructor. I’ve also been awarded both the Canadian Legion Medal of Excellence and the Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal (the latter of which was awarded to be by the Lieutenant-Governor of Ontario, James Bartleman), in part, for my years of community service including working with veterans!

    Also, as a person who’s worked with the military as a civilian, I can tell you that while I’ve never gone overseas, a great many of the soldiers and airmen I know who’ve been overseas most certainly did NOT know what they were getting into. But again, I suppose you’re right. I suppose I’m just an idiot.

  12. 12 martinp 12 November, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    That is very true, I know of many soldiers who enlisted thinking they were going to ‘help Afghanis’, only to find out that the only ‘help’ they were giving was by killing other Afghanis. And we can’t rule out the financial imperative-there’s a reason why there’s a disproportionate number of maritimers in the military. Out east for a sector of the population thats the best bet of a decent career.

    It’s always ironic because I work with plenty of veterans as well and come from a military family, even almost served when I tried to squeeze in underage, but by far it is those who have zero affiliation with the military and zero knowledge with the actual mission who are always the loudest at shouting down those who “question war”.

    Neil Peart said it best: “we hear the drunken and the passionate cry, of the citizens along for the ride”. Or perhaps Roger Waters ‘Bravery of Being out of range’: “Just love those laser guided bombs/They’re really great
    For righting wrongs/You hit the target And win the game/
    From bars 3,000 miles away

  13. 13 dirtfarmer 31 January, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    soldier go where there are order to– and many believe in what there are going— there do this so idiot like you can say shit like this– you have the freedom to say this- because of men and woman– over the last 100 year– to give you the right to print and speak any thing you like this — site is a disgrace and the the maker is a idiot

  14. 14 paulitics 31 January, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    dirtfarmer,

    “My prayer to God is a very short one: ‘O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.’ God has granted it.”
    -Voltaire

  15. 15 Big Guy in TB 31 January, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    dirtfarmer:

    Ah yes, you, like so many others have bought into the same old do-do.

    You said it right “soldiers go where they are order to”. Frankly some of the training solders go through involves brainwashing so they are easier to control. Who in their right mind would want to fight a war, and put their own lives at risk, and the welfare of their immediate families at risk – a war that is based on a stack of lies (faulty intelligence, etc.) – now there is an neat oxymoron if I ever heard one.

    Almost 4,000 US solders killed and over 25,000 soldiers seriously wounded so far — and for what? For Bush, Cheney, and all the other rich bastards in the US, its all about the oil stupid. We talk about 4,000 soldiers killed like its water off of a duck’s back.

    As you quote “there do this so idiot like you can say shit like this– you have the freedom to say this- because of men and woman– over the last 100 year– to give you the right to print and speak any thing you like”. Who the hell can understand garbage like this, but if you are saying that we have freedom of speech because of fighting men and women, you do live a fantasy world where dreams do come true. And this is all a dream because as George Carlin says, “you’ve got to be asleep to believe it”.

    I personally know a family that was devested by the death of their son fighting overseas, and I have seen the impact on the immediate family. It ain’t pretty. Go continue to shovel your dirt elsewhere – your ignorance is showing through clear.

    Your comments are a disgrace.

  16. 16 soldier 18 March, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    I cant believe you idiots would even start something like this, people risk their lives everyday to grant you the freedom that most of you DON’T deserve. I support our troops and those who don’t are the scum bags of our society who ruin everything we stand for.

  17. 17 paulitics 19 March, 2008 at 9:39 am

    Care to name for us the people who you decree don’t deserve rights? Care to name for us any instance when soldiers “granted” us freedom or rights in the last half century? I used to work for the Canadian Forces, so does that mean that, according to you, I “deserve” freedom?

  18. 18 Annoyed 26 April, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    I see you have also attracted the other nutcases, the anti abortionists. Good mix, you are an addled brained twit. I have no idea why you believe only your ideas are right. Bottom line, our troops are there, whether I believe in the casue or not, I WILL support THEM. If I disagree with the reasons, I will blame the real culprit, the political leaders. These men and women are there and they are dieing there. They deserve our support, unlike the likes of you and your other lunatics fringe people. Perhaps you would suggest we support terrorists! Because that is what you just said!

  19. 19 paulitics 26 April, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    Priceless. I love how you write how I’m “addled brained” because I “believe only [my] ideas are right” and then you proceed to go on a rant about how the only right position is to “support” the troops and that everyone who doesn’t is a “lunatic”.

    When reading something like this comment of yours, I’m reminded of Voltaire who wrote:

    “My prayer to God is a very short one: ‘O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.’ God has granted it.”

    P.S., I’d be willing to put money down that I’ve done far more for vets than you ever have. The Lt. Governor of Ontario personally awarded me with a medal based on my community service. (I’ve also received the Canadian Legion Medal as well, if you’re interested).

  20. 20 nicole 12 June, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    your fucking stupid. we are the reason your dumb ass is FREE.

  21. 21 D.Thom 23 June, 2008 at 2:51 am

    I am a veteran of the Iraq war and you Liberals are Idiots who do not know what you are talking about.
    I hate the ribbons. I have news for you. You say you support us. Yeah right thanks for the support.
    If you do not support my mission then you are not supporting me. It is that plain, if you do not get it then you have no clue. As for the jerk who says we have gone there against our will you are an idiot of the worst kind. Why are our re enlistment rates higher now than they have ever been? Why do we have men and women who have lost limbs fighting for their right to go back again even with their disabilities. One Marine just earned that right. He has one leg now and he is going back after a long hard fight to prove he can still do the job.
    You people are the reason why we do not care much for liberals. You are all stupid. You think you speak for us…NO you do not speak for us.
    We think liberals are what is wrong with America.
    You are too dumb to know that you are nothing more than communist.
    We have been to those communist and socialist nations and we know a commie when we see one.
    This is what we see in you.

    From a proud member of the 1/9

  22. 22 D.Thom 23 June, 2008 at 3:44 am

    military rules for non-military folk

    “Dear Civilians, “We know that the current state of affairs in our
    great nation have many civilians up in arms and excited to join the military. For those of you who can’t join, you can still lend a hand.

    Here are a few of the areas where we would like your assistance:

    (1) The next time you see an adult talking (or wearing a hat) during the playing of the National Anthem—kick their ass.

    (2) When you witness, firsthand, someone burning the American Flag in protest—kick their ass.

    (3) Regardless of the rank they held while they served, pay the
    highest amount of respect to all veterans. If you see anyone doing otherwise, quietly pull them aside and explain how these veterans fought for the very freedom they bask in every second. Enlighten them on the many sacrifices these veterans made to make this Nation great. Then hold them down while a disabled veteran kicks their ass.

    (4) (GUYS) If you were never in the military, DO NOT pretend that you were. Wearing battle dress uniforms (BDUs), telling others that you used to be “Special Forces,” and collecting GI Joe memorabilia, might have been okay when you were seven years old. Now, it will only make you look stupid and get your ass kicked.

    (5) Next time you come across an Air Force member, do not ask them, “Do you fly a jet?” Not everyone in the Air Force is a pilot. Such ignorance deserves an ass-kicking (children are exempt).

    (6) If you witness someone calling the US Coast Guard ‘non-military’, inform them of their mistake—and kick their ass.

    (7) Next time Old Glory (the US flag) prances by during a parade, get on your damn feet and pay homage to her by placing y our hand over your heart. Quietly thank the militatry member or veteran lucky enough to be carrying her—of course, failure to do either of those could earn you a severe ass-kicking.

    (8) Don’t try to discuss politics with a military member or a
    veteran. We are Americans, and we all bleed the same, regardless of our party affiliation. Our Chain of Command is to include our Commander-In-Chief (C in C). The President (for those who didn’t know) is our C in C regardless of political party. We have no inside track on what happens inside those big important buildings where all those representatives meet. All we know is that when those civilian representatives screw up the situation, they call upon the military to go straighten it out. If you keep asking us the same stupid questions repeatedly, you will get your ass kicked!

    (9) ‘Your mama wears combat boots’ never made sense to me—stop saying it! If she did, she would most likely be a vet and therefore, could kick your ass!

    (10) Bin Laden and the Taliban are not Communists, so stop saying ‘Let’s go kill those Commies!’ And stop asking us where he is? Crystal balls are not standard issue in the military. That reminds me—if you see anyone calling those damn psychic phone numbers, let me know, so I can go kick their ass.

    (11) ‘Flyboy’ (Air Force), ‘Jarhead’ (Marines), ‘Grunt’ (Army),
    ‘Squid’ (Navy), ‘Puddle Jumpers’ (Coast Guard), etc., are terms of
    endearment we use describing each other. Unless you are a service member or vet, you have not earned the right to use them. That could get your ass kicked.

    (12) Last, but not least, whether or not you become a member of the military, support our troops and their families. Every Thanksgiving and religious holiday that you enjoy with family and friends, please remember that there are literally thousands of sailors and troops far from home wishing they could be with their families. Thank God for our military and the sacrifices they make every day. Without them, our country would get its ass kicked.”

    “It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.

    “It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of
    speech.

    “It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the
    freedom to demonstrate.

    “It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag.”

  23. 23 anarchore 4 July, 2008 at 9:38 am

    They are not our troops. They are nothing more than a proxy Zionist army.

  24. 24 anarchore 8 August, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    D. Thom, you are a naive stupid ignorant faggot. Military = faggot camp. Go to hell you idiot, maybe you can blow your fool brains out from the PTSD.

  25. 25 Jacob 26 September, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    I support the troops.

    I do Not belive that we are Realy helping out in Afgahinstahn

    If a person is to look at the media coverage, one would see only the fact that coalition forces continue to take casualties. However a family friend. Major Cossar Hastins and Prince Edward Regiment recently did a tour over in Kahndahar (i don’t know if thats how its spelt please pardon if i am wrong. When he returned he talked about how the troops were helping, rebuilding schools, wells and houses. But its not enough. Unless we can somehow wipe of The terrosists (i don’t remember how to spell alquida?) then when we leave they will just walk back in and take over. So I honestly don’t see the point in remaining because unless the damn cowards were to commit to conventional warfare, were they would present an actual target to strike out at. Instead of hideing among the population like the rats they are, then were never going to be able to do that.

    I think we should stick to peace keeping and humnanitarian missions, they are at this time far more achievable goals.

    thank you for takeing the time to read this comment, i wish you all a good day.

  26. 26 Les Holmes 27 December, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Hmm I’d say blow it out your ears. I support our troops. I don’t knock support for any other organization that truly deserves it either. If you don’t think supporting oru troops is worthwhile. Don’t. If you think that looks good on you, it gets back to my opening comment. Hmmm.
    Les – Proud Canadian

  27. 27 S.A. 16 December, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Hi sir paul, Id like to use the last ribbon from this page for my blog. Thank you.


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