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	<title>Comments on: A friendly note to America from a Canadian:  Quit saying you&#8217;re the &#8220;envy of the world&#8221;!</title>
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		<title>By: virgomonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgomonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing... Just because Olbermann didn&#039;t question Friedman&#039;s comments doesn&#039;t mean that Olbermann was agreeing with him. To suggest that is absurd. There are time constraints during these interviews. There&#039;s not as much time as you my think there is for questioning every statement. It&#039;s TV. 

Olbermann&#039;s standing up to and mercilessly bashing the Bush administration, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, the Iraq War, the corporate greedy fat cats, and all-things-American-corruptions just about says all you need to know about Olbermann! He&#039;s anything but a blind patriot. A patriot, he may be, but not a blind one love-it-or-leave-it type. 

Cut the guy some slack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing&#8230; Just because Olbermann didn&#8217;t question Friedman&#8217;s comments doesn&#8217;t mean that Olbermann was agreeing with him. To suggest that is absurd. There are time constraints during these interviews. There&#8217;s not as much time as you my think there is for questioning every statement. It&#8217;s TV. </p>
<p>Olbermann&#8217;s standing up to and mercilessly bashing the Bush administration, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, the Iraq War, the corporate greedy fat cats, and all-things-American-corruptions just about says all you need to know about Olbermann! He&#8217;s anything but a blind patriot. A patriot, he may be, but not a blind one love-it-or-leave-it type. </p>
<p>Cut the guy some slack.</p>
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		<title>By: RPJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RPJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virgomonkey.

What part of the original post or of my message constitutes American bashing? Read my message over again please because I think I was saying we are all the same. We ALL have good parts about our countries and shitty parts, that is one reason why claiming to be the best country in the world is just plain dumb, no matter who does it. If you don&#039;t think your media is constantly saying this then we are listening to different US networks. Since we get your 3 major networks plus several of your cable networks, please advise what you are watching that has lead you to believe this does not happen. If you believe that Canadians constantly claim they are better than everyone else I am not going to argue with you about it, even though I have not seen evidence of it and we don&#039;t seem to have that reputation globally. I must say that your response to &quot;a friendly note&quot; from your neighbour is interesting. If you are determined not to take any advice from anyone that is your prerogative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virgomonkey.</p>
<p>What part of the original post or of my message constitutes American bashing? Read my message over again please because I think I was saying we are all the same. We ALL have good parts about our countries and shitty parts, that is one reason why claiming to be the best country in the world is just plain dumb, no matter who does it. If you don&#8217;t think your media is constantly saying this then we are listening to different US networks. Since we get your 3 major networks plus several of your cable networks, please advise what you are watching that has lead you to believe this does not happen. If you believe that Canadians constantly claim they are better than everyone else I am not going to argue with you about it, even though I have not seen evidence of it and we don&#8217;t seem to have that reputation globally. I must say that your response to &#8220;a friendly note&#8221; from your neighbour is interesting. If you are determined not to take any advice from anyone that is your prerogative.</p>
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		<title>By: virgomonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgomonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for the above BOLD print. I accidental left out a tag in my html. 

Please forgive. 

Gawd forbid, I get called out on looking too flamboyant - &quot;a typical yank&quot; that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for the above BOLD print. I accidental left out a tag in my html. </p>
<p>Please forgive. </p>
<p>Gawd forbid, I get called out on looking too flamboyant &#8211; &#8220;a typical yank&#8221; that is.</p>
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		<title>By: virgomonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgomonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;RPJ, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;You missed the point. Canada (and most other countries) think their country is wonderful but are not under the delusion that they are the best in the world (especially in all things).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This must be your blind spot. We all have them. However, the most nationalistic group of people I have ever met were Canadians. Not the mainstream, thankfully, but yes - the Canadians. If you have to define your country only by means of being Americanophobic - that says more about YOU than US, really. 

Speaking of ignorant Americans, I wouldn&#039;t get all too excited about feeling too good about being smarter than Americans. Here&#039;s another peak into &lt;a href=&quot;http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/america-the-stupid/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the other side&lt;/a&gt;. 

Actually, most of the unsubstantiated rumors that Americanophobic Canucks believe in blindly &lt;a href=&quot;https://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcf9x8tx_355gkxc69d7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;have been debunked/challenged&lt;/a&gt; long ago in my blog. 

Ian in Hamburg: (a typical Americanophobe)

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s a sign of collective narcissism, you know. They have this unrealistic, idealised vision of what they think they are, fail to see their faults, label as enemies anyone who calls them out on it, and can’t understand why anyone would fail to understand why they’re so great or why anyone wouldn’t envy them. I’ve seen it on a personal level, and these people are sick. DSM-IV sick.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Once again, judging all 300 million people by their extremists. 

One word: Lazy

Oh, and you can call that sick too. That&#039;s what bigotry is all about. &lt;a href=&quot;http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/dont-you-hate-when-americans-sterotype-canadians/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unfair labels and stereotypes&lt;/a&gt; while simultaneously and sanctimoniously pounding his own chest and patting his own back. 

Good call. 

Let me guess, I bet you all believe that the US is the fattest nation and that Bush actually got fairly elected twice, right? I&#039;ll let you guys figure that one out for yourselves. 

Whoa. Speaking of blatant ignorance....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>RPJ, </p>
<blockquote><p>You missed the point. Canada (and most other countries) think their country is wonderful but are not under the delusion that they are the best in the world (especially in all things).</p></blockquote>
<p>This must be your blind spot. We all have them. However, the most nationalistic group of people I have ever met were Canadians. Not the mainstream, thankfully, but yes &#8211; the Canadians. If you have to define your country only by means of being Americanophobic &#8211; that says more about YOU than US, really. </p>
<p>Speaking of ignorant Americans, I wouldn&#8217;t get all too excited about feeling too good about being smarter than Americans. Here&#8217;s another peak into <a href="http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/america-the-stupid/" rel="nofollow">the other side</a>. </p>
<p>Actually, most of the unsubstantiated rumors that Americanophobic Canucks believe in blindly <a href="https://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcf9x8tx_355gkxc69d7" rel="nofollow">have been debunked/challenged</a> long ago in my blog. </p>
<p>Ian in Hamburg: (a typical Americanophobe)</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s a sign of collective narcissism, you know. They have this unrealistic, idealised vision of what they think they are, fail to see their faults, label as enemies anyone who calls them out on it, and can’t understand why anyone would fail to understand why they’re so great or why anyone wouldn’t envy them. I’ve seen it on a personal level, and these people are sick. DSM-IV sick.</p></blockquote>
<p>Once again, judging all 300 million people by their extremists. </p>
<p>One word: Lazy</p>
<p>Oh, and you can call that sick too. That&#8217;s what bigotry is all about. <a href="http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/dont-you-hate-when-americans-sterotype-canadians/" rel="nofollow">Unfair labels and stereotypes</a> while simultaneously and sanctimoniously pounding his own chest and patting his own back. </p>
<p>Good call. </p>
<p>Let me guess, I bet you all believe that the US is the fattest nation and that Bush actually got fairly elected twice, right? I&#8217;ll let you guys figure that one out for yourselves. </p>
<p>Whoa. Speaking of blatant ignorance&#8230;.</b></p>
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		<title>By: virgomonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgomonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you&#039;ve got that bass ackwards. ;-)

Why am I not surprised that, as usual, you are judging us by our EXTREMISTS - which is always the easiest thing to do. 

Why don&#039;t we have a look &lt;a href=&quot;http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/americas-self-critical-nature-in-the-media-goes-unnoticed-all-too-often/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at the other side&lt;/a&gt;, shall we?

Thank you in advance for being open-minded enough to the &lt;i&gt;un&lt;/i&gt;distorted reality - you know, the kind that &lt;b&gt;YOUR&lt;/b&gt; media won&#039;t show &lt;b&gt;YOU&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you&#8217;ve got that bass ackwards. ;-)</p>
<p>Why am I not surprised that, as usual, you are judging us by our EXTREMISTS &#8211; which is always the easiest thing to do. </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we have a look <a href="http://virgomonkey.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/americas-self-critical-nature-in-the-media-goes-unnoticed-all-too-often/" rel="nofollow">at the other side</a>, shall we?</p>
<p>Thank you in advance for being open-minded enough to the <i>un</i>distorted reality &#8211; you know, the kind that <b>YOUR</b> media won&#8217;t show <b>YOU</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: paulitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zhu, you shouldn&#039;t worry about posting that you are from France and living in Canada here on Paulitics.

I myself, while an anglophone, reside in Québec and have great love for both the Québecois and the French.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zhu, you shouldn&#8217;t worry about posting that you are from France and living in Canada here on Paulitics.</p>
<p>I myself, while an anglophone, reside in Québec and have great love for both the Québecois and the French.</p>
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		<title>By: Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a French (yes, French, please no comment...) living in Canada I have learned to like some sides of the U.S.A but it is true that I rarely meet or seen anyone who express his envy for the country. Most Canadians aren&#039;t even interested to work there... not that people bash the U.S.A, mind you. Just not that interested, same way not every French is dying to go live in the U.K or  every Italian want to live in Spain. 

Not everybody is interested in the US. This is the reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a French (yes, French, please no comment&#8230;) living in Canada I have learned to like some sides of the U.S.A but it is true that I rarely meet or seen anyone who express his envy for the country. Most Canadians aren&#8217;t even interested to work there&#8230; not that people bash the U.S.A, mind you. Just not that interested, same way not every French is dying to go live in the U.K or  every Italian want to live in Spain. </p>
<p>Not everybody is interested in the US. This is the reality.</p>
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		<title>By: martinp</title>
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		<dc:creator>martinp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People often simply don&#039;t want to SAY they are socialist, thanks to the last fifty years.  However, since the nationalistic jingoism seems to be over, I&#039;d like to comment to Ken.  Being from NB thats where many of my examples come in, and to back up what he mentioned, lets look at forestry.  New Brunswick owns about 50% of the land of the province publicly, which it leases to five corporations which have pulp mills in the province.  UPM owned the pulp mill in Miramichi, and the province gave it $300 million a couple years ago because of the &#039;hard times&#039;.  Last year, the company announced it was shutting down.  That means that the $300 million could have been simpy given to the 1000 workers (300 grand goes a long way), instead it went to the company which closed its doors anyway.  And to add insult to injury, the government changed legislation that required the license holders which were required to process NB wood WITHIN NB. UPM still owns land and has a license, yet can ship all the NB wood they want to their brand new facility in South Dakota- a new facility built with govenrment subsidies.   You see, the company wasn&#039;t actually LOSING money, it was just more cost effective to do it this way.

    So the point ol grandad the socialist would make is that it is because of the reality of politics that bailing out corporations won&#039;t mean governments will &#039;make changes&#039;.  In fact, both Harper and Bush have been even louder in exclaiming that there has to be MORE free trade to solve the problems that free trade made.  For americans here who may have missed it, at least ten percent of the almost a trillion dollar bailout is earmarked to ensure corporations will still pay off dividends-in other words add more money to those who caused the problem in the first place.  This is why there are socialists, and why socialism always comes back.  The amount of regulation required to run an ACTUAL capitalist system is pretty damn close to socialism (for one actual capitalism requires the expulsion of &#039;corporations&#039; or what Adam Smith called &#039;moneyed organizations).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People often simply don&#8217;t want to SAY they are socialist, thanks to the last fifty years.  However, since the nationalistic jingoism seems to be over, I&#8217;d like to comment to Ken.  Being from NB thats where many of my examples come in, and to back up what he mentioned, lets look at forestry.  New Brunswick owns about 50% of the land of the province publicly, which it leases to five corporations which have pulp mills in the province.  UPM owned the pulp mill in Miramichi, and the province gave it $300 million a couple years ago because of the &#8216;hard times&#8217;.  Last year, the company announced it was shutting down.  That means that the $300 million could have been simpy given to the 1000 workers (300 grand goes a long way), instead it went to the company which closed its doors anyway.  And to add insult to injury, the government changed legislation that required the license holders which were required to process NB wood WITHIN NB. UPM still owns land and has a license, yet can ship all the NB wood they want to their brand new facility in South Dakota- a new facility built with govenrment subsidies.   You see, the company wasn&#8217;t actually LOSING money, it was just more cost effective to do it this way.</p>
<p>    So the point ol grandad the socialist would make is that it is because of the reality of politics that bailing out corporations won&#8217;t mean governments will &#8216;make changes&#8217;.  In fact, both Harper and Bush have been even louder in exclaiming that there has to be MORE free trade to solve the problems that free trade made.  For americans here who may have missed it, at least ten percent of the almost a trillion dollar bailout is earmarked to ensure corporations will still pay off dividends-in other words add more money to those who caused the problem in the first place.  This is why there are socialists, and why socialism always comes back.  The amount of regulation required to run an ACTUAL capitalist system is pretty damn close to socialism (for one actual capitalism requires the expulsion of &#8216;corporations&#8217; or what Adam Smith called &#8216;moneyed organizations).</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Furber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Furber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys. I just reread my last bit and the part about supporting business sounds a bit hypocritical when taken in context with my previous post about being peed off with bailing out the auto industry. Apples and oranges. The auto industry has had lots of what I&#039;d argue could be termed incentives from taxpayers on both sides of the border. Now they&#039;ve pissed that away, they&#039;re holding out their hands for more. I&#039;m for generally making life reasonably easy for business so we all benefit, but this makes my stomach turn. I realize though our government seems to be stuck. If the Americans put out a bail out package and Canada doesn&#039;t do we lose the Big 3 in Ontario. Then again, it could well be that we dump a few billion their way and we still lose those plants. Fun and Games. But I agree with you Patricksperry we generally should not be bailing out businesses who appear too incompetent to evolve with the times. My old man was a Socialist tried and true and I know what he&#039;d say about all this. Give business a financial break so it&#039;ll help create more employment and they&#039;ll stuff the money into their coffers and forget about it. Now more jobs, no gratitude, no thanks. However, I think the US and Canadian governments working together have an opportunity here to force change. But considering the types of governments we both have -- and yes I&#039;m including the democrats -- that won&#039;t happen. I fear it&#039;ll just be more corporate welfare. We waste money feeding the greedy corporate machine when people live on the streets, haven&#039;t enough to eat, don&#039;t get the health care they need etc. etc. etc. Enough already. Time to grab that pendulum and shove it back where it belongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys. I just reread my last bit and the part about supporting business sounds a bit hypocritical when taken in context with my previous post about being peed off with bailing out the auto industry. Apples and oranges. The auto industry has had lots of what I&#8217;d argue could be termed incentives from taxpayers on both sides of the border. Now they&#8217;ve pissed that away, they&#8217;re holding out their hands for more. I&#8217;m for generally making life reasonably easy for business so we all benefit, but this makes my stomach turn. I realize though our government seems to be stuck. If the Americans put out a bail out package and Canada doesn&#8217;t do we lose the Big 3 in Ontario. Then again, it could well be that we dump a few billion their way and we still lose those plants. Fun and Games. But I agree with you Patricksperry we generally should not be bailing out businesses who appear too incompetent to evolve with the times. My old man was a Socialist tried and true and I know what he&#8217;d say about all this. Give business a financial break so it&#8217;ll help create more employment and they&#8217;ll stuff the money into their coffers and forget about it. Now more jobs, no gratitude, no thanks. However, I think the US and Canadian governments working together have an opportunity here to force change. But considering the types of governments we both have &#8212; and yes I&#8217;m including the democrats &#8212; that won&#8217;t happen. I fear it&#8217;ll just be more corporate welfare. We waste money feeding the greedy corporate machine when people live on the streets, haven&#8217;t enough to eat, don&#8217;t get the health care they need etc. etc. etc. Enough already. Time to grab that pendulum and shove it back where it belongs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Furber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Furber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patricksperry please see Martinp comment as answer to your response to me. I couldn&#039;t say it better myself. Certainly we need to do what we can to keep business as healthy as possible and to encourage entrepreneurship. Business keeps our countries&#039; economic engines running. And from that comes taxes. However, the other side of that is what we do with those taxes. As individuals we do have responsibility to be the best citizen we can be. But we also have a responsibility to help those who are having trouble doing that so they can eventually stand on their own. As for health care. I simply do not understand why right-wingers do not get the concept that public health care is more efficient and all inclusive than any other system -- if the government would just fund it right. It&#039;s called buying power. A single system with millions of users all paying for it -- through their taxes -- will be more responsive than private single enterprises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricksperry please see Martinp comment as answer to your response to me. I couldn&#8217;t say it better myself. Certainly we need to do what we can to keep business as healthy as possible and to encourage entrepreneurship. Business keeps our countries&#8217; economic engines running. And from that comes taxes. However, the other side of that is what we do with those taxes. As individuals we do have responsibility to be the best citizen we can be. But we also have a responsibility to help those who are having trouble doing that so they can eventually stand on their own. As for health care. I simply do not understand why right-wingers do not get the concept that public health care is more efficient and all inclusive than any other system &#8212; if the government would just fund it right. It&#8217;s called buying power. A single system with millions of users all paying for it &#8212; through their taxes &#8212; will be more responsive than private single enterprises.</p>
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		<title>By: martinp</title>
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		<dc:creator>martinp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, everybody gets grouchy on mondays, my reply wasn&#039;t too friendly either.  However, I don&#039;t think ANY criticism presented in any way is going to have an effect on americans.  Do you pay much attention to comments by americans on Canada?  I guess we just have to remember this is just a guy&#039;s blog, and he has an opinion and wanted to say it, so its really the reader&#039;s problem.  I just have to add that IF the US is &#039;going broke&#039; its certainly not because of health care for illegal aliens.  One days purchase of oil for military uses easily covers most of that health care expenditure for a year.   Even with pretty shitty service I&#039;d agree and take the canadian healthcare system, but people should realize that the majority of americans would as well, as polls have shown for quite some time and quite consistently.   It seems its just as hard to get single payer as it is to hold onto it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, everybody gets grouchy on mondays, my reply wasn&#8217;t too friendly either.  However, I don&#8217;t think ANY criticism presented in any way is going to have an effect on americans.  Do you pay much attention to comments by americans on Canada?  I guess we just have to remember this is just a guy&#8217;s blog, and he has an opinion and wanted to say it, so its really the reader&#8217;s problem.  I just have to add that IF the US is &#8216;going broke&#8217; its certainly not because of health care for illegal aliens.  One days purchase of oil for military uses easily covers most of that health care expenditure for a year.   Even with pretty shitty service I&#8217;d agree and take the canadian healthcare system, but people should realize that the majority of americans would as well, as polls have shown for quite some time and quite consistently.   It seems its just as hard to get single payer as it is to hold onto it.</p>
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		<title>By: patricksperry</title>
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		<dc:creator>patricksperry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where might that be at Ken..? Certainly not in America. We are going broke paying for health care for illegal aliens as it is.

Government should not be in the business of bailing out business IMO. Not anywhere, and not at any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where might that be at Ken..? Certainly not in America. We are going broke paying for health care for illegal aliens as it is.</p>
<p>Government should not be in the business of bailing out business IMO. Not anywhere, and not at any time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Furber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Furber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martinp:
Okay, fair enough. I do get grouchy on Mondays. And Paul is right when he argues America has to stop crowing how great the country is when it has so little credibility around the world after those eight years of Bush. But I know how I feel when some dip-wad US blogger makes an unkind, and generic, comment about Canadians. If we want Americans to listen to our criticism, and I do, we have to step somewhat carefully. Otherwise they&#039;ll either tune out or you&#039;ll get the sort of comments registered above or worse. And for the record I&#039;d rather have our damaged health system with its long wait lines then no health care for 40 per cent of our citizens. I know this is another topic but it pees me off when our government considers spending billions of taxpayers money to bail out incompetent businesses but when it comes time to lubricate the financial gears on our health machine -- well that is just too expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martinp:<br />
Okay, fair enough. I do get grouchy on Mondays. And Paul is right when he argues America has to stop crowing how great the country is when it has so little credibility around the world after those eight years of Bush. But I know how I feel when some dip-wad US blogger makes an unkind, and generic, comment about Canadians. If we want Americans to listen to our criticism, and I do, we have to step somewhat carefully. Otherwise they&#8217;ll either tune out or you&#8217;ll get the sort of comments registered above or worse. And for the record I&#8217;d rather have our damaged health system with its long wait lines then no health care for 40 per cent of our citizens. I know this is another topic but it pees me off when our government considers spending billions of taxpayers money to bail out incompetent businesses but when it comes time to lubricate the financial gears on our health machine &#8212; well that is just too expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: martinp</title>
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		<dc:creator>martinp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind the problem that when Paul is talking, he is NOT talking about average americans-he is talking about american media, and perhaps a loud minority on blogs. I do tend to agree that there hasn&#039;t been a lot of content here, and postings like this is hardly really beneficial to anybody and tends to minimize the very smart and hard work posted.  It is understandable though, after all its the most powerful, and its not like the people have NO say (although not a lot).   And Canada is no different, but Paul has hit on something, because a percentage of canadians are very &#039;americanized&#039;, so its &#039;safer&#039; to criticize the US (always popular all over the world), as a way of criticizing a certain ideology popular in canada.   I was recently in europe though, and it really is amazing how little those countries talk about the US.  Apart from CNN and the BBC there was almost no mention of the US, although on Al Jazeera TV there was some VERY interesting documentaries on the US, a perspective that is never shown in the US or canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind the problem that when Paul is talking, he is NOT talking about average americans-he is talking about american media, and perhaps a loud minority on blogs. I do tend to agree that there hasn&#8217;t been a lot of content here, and postings like this is hardly really beneficial to anybody and tends to minimize the very smart and hard work posted.  It is understandable though, after all its the most powerful, and its not like the people have NO say (although not a lot).   And Canada is no different, but Paul has hit on something, because a percentage of canadians are very &#8216;americanized&#8217;, so its &#8217;safer&#8217; to criticize the US (always popular all over the world), as a way of criticizing a certain ideology popular in canada.   I was recently in europe though, and it really is amazing how little those countries talk about the US.  Apart from CNN and the BBC there was almost no mention of the US, although on Al Jazeera TV there was some VERY interesting documentaries on the US, a perspective that is never shown in the US or canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Furber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Furber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul.
It always makes me nervous when someone starts arguing about how ignorant Americans are. You do make a somewhat valid point but why? We don&#039;t need to bash the Americans, after eight  years of Bush and Co. many are doing that job themselves. We&#039;d be better off looking at our own problems. For instance, did you check out some of the resolutions that passed at the recent Conservative convention in Winnipeg? They&#039;d make the American religious right proud.
I grew up six miles from the US border, have spent considerable time traveling there and have met many Americans both here and in their own country. And the vast majority of Americans struck me as damned nice people. By constantly bashing Americans, I believe Canadians are revealing something ugly about themselves. Perhaps it&#039;s time to knock it the hell off. Or at least buffer it down a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul.<br />
It always makes me nervous when someone starts arguing about how ignorant Americans are. You do make a somewhat valid point but why? We don&#8217;t need to bash the Americans, after eight  years of Bush and Co. many are doing that job themselves. We&#8217;d be better off looking at our own problems. For instance, did you check out some of the resolutions that passed at the recent Conservative convention in Winnipeg? They&#8217;d make the American religious right proud.<br />
I grew up six miles from the US border, have spent considerable time traveling there and have met many Americans both here and in their own country. And the vast majority of Americans struck me as damned nice people. By constantly bashing Americans, I believe Canadians are revealing something ugly about themselves. Perhaps it&#8217;s time to knock it the hell off. Or at least buffer it down a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: martinp</title>
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		<dc:creator>martinp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh gee, sorry about that faux pas, let me rephrase- the governing party, whose head  is being taken to court for breaking his own election law, got 40 more seats on an increase of 1.3% more votes, NOT &#039;less than one percent&#039;, as originally stated.  People should note the magnificent difference of .4% there, I do apologize. 

     The point was exactly what was stated, but the point is even better made since &#039;the winner&#039; didn&#039;t &#039;take all&#039; because of course a &#039;winner take all&#039; system is so dysfunctional that people are stuck with a government that most DO NOT support.  In fact, the system even let New Brunswick elect a Premier who got fewer votes than his opponent, even though its essentially a two party system-and he has a majority government!

    If canadian media were as prominent in the world they would no doubt do the same thing, in fact since the country is quickly going the way of the US, you can expect that jingoism to increase exponentially.   Part of the reason is obviously brainwashing, like the &#039;USA&#039; chants you hear on the simpsons.  The reason for that is &#039;control&#039;, which in Canada you don&#039;t need because there are far fewer political recourses available to canadians than americans.  

   So the point is that the US is only different in a measure of degree to other countries-and that degree is only a reflection of the precariousness of governmental control and their place in the world.  It&#039;s very much like the blog mentioned later on the war movie and the National Post.  The US IS a lot freer than Canada, and there are far more opportunities for political involvement at various levels.  The US is second only to Switzerland in that regard, so again, they DO have lots to crow about, and if you look at the countries that house most of &#039;the world&#039; its not that much of a stretch to state that they are the envy of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh gee, sorry about that faux pas, let me rephrase- the governing party, whose head  is being taken to court for breaking his own election law, got 40 more seats on an increase of 1.3% more votes, NOT &#8216;less than one percent&#8217;, as originally stated.  People should note the magnificent difference of .4% there, I do apologize. </p>
<p>     The point was exactly what was stated, but the point is even better made since &#8216;the winner&#8217; didn&#8217;t &#8216;take all&#8217; because of course a &#8216;winner take all&#8217; system is so dysfunctional that people are stuck with a government that most DO NOT support.  In fact, the system even let New Brunswick elect a Premier who got fewer votes than his opponent, even though its essentially a two party system-and he has a majority government!</p>
<p>    If canadian media were as prominent in the world they would no doubt do the same thing, in fact since the country is quickly going the way of the US, you can expect that jingoism to increase exponentially.   Part of the reason is obviously brainwashing, like the &#8216;USA&#8217; chants you hear on the simpsons.  The reason for that is &#8216;control&#8217;, which in Canada you don&#8217;t need because there are far fewer political recourses available to canadians than americans.  </p>
<p>   So the point is that the US is only different in a measure of degree to other countries-and that degree is only a reflection of the precariousness of governmental control and their place in the world.  It&#8217;s very much like the blog mentioned later on the war movie and the National Post.  The US IS a lot freer than Canada, and there are far more opportunities for political involvement at various levels.  The US is second only to Switzerland in that regard, so again, they DO have lots to crow about, and if you look at the countries that house most of &#8216;the world&#8217; its not that much of a stretch to state that they are the envy of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate all that rah-rah America crap as much as the next person.  I think it&#039;s sad that that is the way the rest of the world may see us, but I hope that people can realize that a sizable minority of Americans don&#039;t think that way.  I, for one, consider myself first a citizen of the world (although I must say I do appreciate living in the US -- it could be worse).

I do have to say, though, I see a few comments above that are pretty ignorant themselves.  Ian in Hamburg comes to mind.  If you can&#039;t realize that America is a diversity of opinions, you are just as ignorant as the people you rally against.  Frankly, I am ashamed of our perception and standing in many parts of the world, and I apologize personally for our foreign policy.  So don&#039;t paint the US with such a broad brush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate all that rah-rah America crap as much as the next person.  I think it&#8217;s sad that that is the way the rest of the world may see us, but I hope that people can realize that a sizable minority of Americans don&#8217;t think that way.  I, for one, consider myself first a citizen of the world (although I must say I do appreciate living in the US &#8212; it could be worse).</p>
<p>I do have to say, though, I see a few comments above that are pretty ignorant themselves.  Ian in Hamburg comes to mind.  If you can&#8217;t realize that America is a diversity of opinions, you are just as ignorant as the people you rally against.  Frankly, I am ashamed of our perception and standing in many parts of the world, and I apologize personally for our foreign policy.  So don&#8217;t paint the US with such a broad brush.</p>
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		<title>By: Lurker (usually)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>martinp - While I see much to agree with in your comment, it burns me when people pull statistics out of their butt, then emphasize them to somehow validate their point.  In 2006, the Conservatives won 36.3% of the popular vote.  In 2008 it was 37.6%, a 1.3% increase.

But I should also ask what your point was, exactly.  When you&#039;ve got a winner take all system like ours (or the USA&#039;s!), it often only takes a small shift in opinion to swing contentious ridings one way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>martinp &#8211; While I see much to agree with in your comment, it burns me when people pull statistics out of their butt, then emphasize them to somehow validate their point.  In 2006, the Conservatives won 36.3% of the popular vote.  In 2008 it was 37.6%, a 1.3% increase.</p>
<p>But I should also ask what your point was, exactly.  When you&#8217;ve got a winner take all system like ours (or the USA&#8217;s!), it often only takes a small shift in opinion to swing contentious ridings one way or another.</p>
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